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echo weave vs shadow weave

13 Aug 2009

In a comment on my last post, Meg wonders whether I know the difference between echo weave and shadow weave.  Hmmm, I know that they are different, but I needed to go away and look at drafts before making this post.  Having done that I feel a little better informed, but the following observations are homemade and by no means expert.  Please do correct me if you are wiser than I am.

It strikes me that there are a number of design differences between the two, but one key structural difference.  The structural difference is in the way the weaves are treadled.  I have heard that shadow weave is close to a plain weave structure in its interlacements, while it is clear from my scarf that what I am getting with echo weave is pretty much a twill (in her recent Journal article, Bonnie Inouye says that “in its simplest form, echo weave is the same as a double-faced twill woven as a turned draft”), even though both are threaded in parallel in very much the same way.

Here is a small example of what is happening in echo weave:

Draft echo 4-4

The warp threads are alternately dark blue and light blue: each dark blue thread is offset from its light “echo” by 4 shafts. I have used a 4/4 tie-up here, although for my scarf I have been using a 3/1/1/3, but this makes it easy to see what is happening and gives a direct point of comparison with the shadow weave below.  The main thing is that with my weft (here plain white) I am treadling straight through from 1 to 8.  I might vary this – of course I will vary this! – with advancing patterns, point patterns and so on, but this is the basic principle.

If I take exactly the same warp and weft, however, and treadle on opposites, then I get this,

Draft shadow 4-4

which is shadow weave.  Of course, it doesn’t look like shadow weave, and that is what I meant when I said that there are design differences as well as this structural difference.  For an echo weave I use a single colour of weft which can be completely different from the warp colours, while to make a shadow weave I use the same alternating colours in the weft as I used in the warp to get the distinctive colour-and-weave effect, thus:

Draft shadow 4-4

Another design difference is in the sett.  Because of all those interlacements, shadow weave needs a plain weave sett.  Echo weave on the other hand is warp-faced.  The dense sett of the warp means that a lot of the weft disappears between the warp layers, giving that double-faced twill effect which Bonnie described.

I had a look at the chapter on shadow weave in A Weaver’s Book of 8-Shaft Patterns (Carol Strickler) to see the 4/4 tie-up was a rule or a choice, and it seems to be more or less a rule.  On page 67 it says “If the threading is Atwater method [which is what I have used], the tie-up is half-and-half”, and there is nothing about tie-ups in the section on variations.  I guess if you want all those interlacements then you don’t have much room for manoeuvre.  Echo weave is much more of a free-for-all, so lots of scope for experimentation, i.e. playing.

echo weave vs shadow weave” was posted by Cally on 13 Aug 2009 at http://callybooker.wordpress.com

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3 Comments leave one →
  1. Sandra Rude permalink
    13 Aug 2009 5:23 pm

    The main difference that I see is what you pointed out: since you only use a single shuttle, therefore a single weft color, the resulting structure is twill not plain weave, and the shadow or echo effect runs lengthwise not widthwise.

  2. 13 Aug 2009 7:47 pm

    Oh, Cally, thank you for such a complete response. I’m embarrassed because I had echo weave on the list of things to look up eventually, until you picked it up. Single shuttle would weave far more quickly, of course, and the twill structure would give a softer hand, one assumes, though I’d have to experiment because of it’s double-ness, if I could call it that.

    The shadow weave project worked out well, but the cloth was on the stiff side. While I could see lots of room for design experiments, clearly echo needs looking into as well.

    Can I come back a few more lifetimes as a weaver, please?

  3. 16 Aug 2009 9:20 am

    Excellent post, Cally! I’ve wondered too after reading some of the discussions on it on WeaveTech. I will have to give it a try when I have time for weaving once again.

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